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Reaming Diane Rehm

June 22, 2012 by Honey 6 Comments

Believe-it-or-not, not everything you hear on the radio is true!  I’ve just mailed the following  letter to Diane Rehm, who recently aired a show on Long-Term Care insurance  (LTCi) that contained many inaccuracies.

I’ve been specializing exclusively in sales and support of  LTCi for over 22 years. Sadly, I can still only dream of the day that long-term care insurance will be truthfully and accurately covered by the media.

June 21, 2012

 Dear Ms. Rehm:

 I enjoy listening to your show whenever I can.

 As an expert who has specialized in the placement of long-term care insurance (LTCi) policies for over 22 years, I took great interest in your May 29, 2012 program.

 I have just listened to this show again online, this time isolating many inaccuracies.

 Not a single one of your panelists represented the LTCi industry! One is a journalist, three are academics and or work at a non-profit. None are insurance licensed or have direct experience selling LTCi.

 This was not a program on long-term care insurance. This show was about exploring how and why the government needs to pay for long-term care. This show could or should have more aptly been called “Options for Publicly Paid LTC” or “How to Fix Long-Term Care,” or “Why Publicly Paid LTC Needs Re-vamping.” This is Mr. Gleckman’s area of expertise and you spent a lot of on air time with him. Mr. Gleckman is unqualified to answer many of the questions you asked about LTCi, however, as were your other panelists.

I know how strongly you must feel about helping your listeners, but this program has hurt them. I understand this was inadvertent, but because your guests attempted to address questions they were unqualified to answer, LTCi was unfairly disparaged.

On the following pages I have identified just a few specific instances where false on-air statements and/or answers were given, resulting or the unwarranted disparagement of LTCi. 

Your listeners deserve to know the truth about LTCi. Studies show that over 95% of all LTCi claims are paid and that LTCi policyholders are very satisfied at claim time. The reasons that claims are rejected are straightforward and should have been clearly explained to your listeners.    

LTCi premiums do not have to be expensive. What can be expensive is needing LTC for a lengthy amount of time and not owning LTCi.

LTCi is about making sure that people have the dignity, options and choices they’ve been accustomed to throughout their entire life, including at the end of life, when the cost of healthcare is most likely to be catastrophically high. You did not emphasize this, yet this is what should have been highlighted. In addition, LTCi preserves wealth. Most people buy LTCi for the first reason and consider wealth preservation to be a secondary benefit. (This is why people with high net worth AND people with barely any net worth often buy LTCi.)

The primary reason why more people do not own LTCi is because they are simply unwilling to discuss or imagine a future in which they might require long-term care, not because premiums are high.

Mr. Gleckman’s goals for public LTC financing sound great in theory, but in light of practical issues like today’s political environment and huge budget shortfalls, LTCi policyholders do not and will not count on this.  And neither should Americans without LTCi.

Currently, the majority of LTC in the USis paid for with government dollars. Few things in life are easier to demonstrate than the already inferior quality of government-paid nursing homes, and this is before the deluge of Baby Boomers starts overwhelming this system. 

 This program has hurt your listeners badly. You would do your listeners a true service if you would invite some guests who are actually experts on LTCi onto your program.  I would be happy to help you identify such individuals.

 Please see the following pages for examples of falsehoods aired on your program.

 Sincerely,

 Honey Leveen

Documentation of May 29, 2012 Diane Rehm Show LTCi disparagment

Minute 2:10

Ms Langford states that Lifetime benefits are “extraordinarily expensive,” which is false and disparaging of LTCi.

Minute 2:45

Ms. Langford states that built-in 5% compounding is what has driven recent Long-Term Care Insurance (LTCi) rate hikes. This is patently false. The primary reasons are: higher than anticipated persistency and artificially protracted, low interest rates on the sizeable reserves that insurance companies are required by law to maintain to cover claims.  For more information on the causes of recent LTCi rate hikes, read the article National LTC Events, found at

http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs024/1102230271684/archive/1109959361711.html

 Ms. Langford quotes the average cost of care as $238/day. This is the average cost of nursing home care. People who own LTCi are highly unlikely to receive care in nursing homes because LTCi enables them to afford preferable options like assisted living and home health care. However, people who do not own LTCi and spend down their life’s savings until they qualify for  Medicaid will likely wind up in nursing homes. It is wrong to peg the average cost of care for a LTCi policyholder at $238/day.

Mr. A states that LTCi is for the relatively affluent, this is false.

Minute 4:38

Repeatedly, points are made about LTCi preserving wealth. LTCi is primarily about preserving dignity and options, then wealth. I did not hear discussion of how much choice LTCi offers at all. This was a very large omission.

Minute 5:00

LTCi is not just for the top 15%, it predominantly for the middle class, who are most exposed. Very affluent people, as well as those with little net worth, also purchase it.  Virtually all my policy holders want to ensure their dignity by having options and to reduce and/or avoid family arguments about money. LTCi is a solution that can be reasonably priced for almost anyone insurable, if they willing to learn about it.

Minute 5:50

Ms. Langford states the Lifetime benefit periods have driven recent LTCi rate hikes. Again, consult the brief article National LTC Events at

http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs024/1102230271684/archive/1109959361711.html

for the correct explanation of recent rate hikes. Ms. Langford also stated that Lifetime benefit periods and 5% compounding have caused recent LTCi market contraction. The cause of LTCi market contraction is the same cause as the recent LTCi rate hikes: higher than anticipated persistency and artificially protracted, low interest rates.

 Minute 6:40

The discussion was on nursing home care. This is not where most LTCi policyholders get their care. People who own LTCi can normally get care at home or in an assisted living facility. 

Minute 7:20

Mention was made that LTCi premiums are too high for moderate income people. This is false! What a disservice to your listeners! The panelist further discourages purchase of LTCi by stating that it is not a product for the broad middle class. This is false. LTCi can be made very affordable. The conversation was steered towards the use of Medicaid for LTC provision. This is economically irrational and unsustainable, and what about the quality of Medicaid-paid LTC? What is your preference? To be marooned in a Medicaid LTC facility, or would you prefer to receive your LTC at home or in an assisted living facility? The quality of Medicaid-paid LTC is a subject that was simply not addressed by your panelists.  Furthermore, they are unqualified to answer your in-depth questions about LTCi and came to you with a clear anti-LTCi bias.

Minute 20:00

There was discussion of the stability of LTCi carriers. If you’d had actual LTCi experts on, they would have explained how and why LTCi carriers are enormously stable, and in fact a lot more trustworthy and capable of paying for LTC than the government is. What a pity LTCi was again disparaged. 

Minute 20:18

A comment was made about the “disarray” of the LTCi industry, I believe by you. This is an inflammatory, false, and disparaging comment. The LTCi industry is in a state of contraction, not disarray. This comment was not useful to the public who are eager to actually learn about LTCi. Instead, throughout this program, the public was dissuaded from carefully evaluating LTCi. This was a true disservice.

 Minute 22:04

Mention of LTCi’s high cost was made. LTCi can be made very affordable. What’s not affordable is needing LTC for a lengthy amount of time and not owning LTCi. If your panelists were qualified to talk about LTCi, they would have said this. 

Minute 30:50 and again at minute 51:40

There was discussion of “surprise” rate hikes. LTCi rate hikes are unusual. LTCi rate hikes are neither arbitrary nor easy to get, due to strict government regulation. Disclosure of the possibility and carriers history of rate hikes is made obvious in all LTCi sales materials. Agents are carefully trained to explain this possibility and can be sanctioned if they don’t. All clients should understand this can happen when they place their applications.

Filed Under: Correcting Ignorant Public Figures, Helpful Information About LTC, Information About LTC Tagged With: Diane Rehm, Diane Rehm Show, Honey Leveen, Howard Gleckman, Long Term Care insurance, LTCi, www.honeyleveen.com

RESOURCES

LTCi Resources

Our resources are organized alphabetically for ease of use.

Long-term care insurance is about so much more than just wealth presentation.

Here’s a comprehensive, excellent resource for anyone suffering from dementia.

This is a valuable presentation titled “Who Will Take Care of Me When I’m Old?”– is it’s so affirming when a non-LTC insurance salesperson gives the same advice I do.

I am  referred to as a “long-term care insurance veteran expert” in this October, 2020 article.  Here’s my quoted comment: “Long-term care planning is about wealth preservation, undeniably. For me and my clients, it is equally or more about dignity, choices, grace, consideration, and quicker access to higher quality care, with much less pause or hesitation. This perspective is often overlooked by the public and by many professionals who serve them.”

Starting at minute 15:45, friend and client Dayna Steele gives me the best interview I believe I’ve ever had. It’s brief, but hits the mark.

3 in 4 Need More Campaign www.3in4needmore.com is the long-term care insurance industry’s version of “got milk?”. Visit it to learn why it is named www.3in4needmore.com. While there, click on the Media tab then the Resource Center for links to excellent LTC sites.

A Place For Mom www.aplaceformom.com – This site is a resource for anyone contemplating a move due to increased needs for care.

Alzeimer’s Facts and Figures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waeuks1-3Z4 – Here’s a brief video from the Alzheimer’s Association that informs and sheds light on the need for responsible long-term care planning.

American Association of Long-Term Care Insurance www.aaltci.org – The AALTCI is the national long-term care insurance trade association. You will find excellent consumer information on long-term care insurance here.

Assisted Living Federation of America www.alfa.org – This site will teach you what assisted living is.

Caregiver www.caregiver.com – This site offers a community and is a virtual supermarket of resources for caregivers. Subscribe to their free newsletter here

Center for LTC Reform (CLTCR) www.centerltc.com – The CLTCR advocates for long-term care reform and making quality long-term care more accessible to all. This is a great site for anyone wanting to gain deeper insight into what is causing our fiscal long-term care problems.

Corporation for LTC Certification www.ltc-cltc.com – CLTC offers the highly respected Certified in Long-Term Care (CLTC) designation. I earned my CLTC in 2000, making me one of the earlier graduates of this program.

Elmcroft Senior Living www.elmcroft.com – Elmcroft is a leading provider of assisted living facilities, has a site with straightforward information on how to determine when long-term care is needed and how understand and select the best option.

Genworth’s New 2018 Cost of Care Calculator – This useful and easy to use tool provides local prices of care all over the US. You can also download it as an app on your iPhone or iPad!

How and Why Insurance Works – Here are two brief and enjoyable videos that give great explanations http://flirtingwiththeuninterested.com/the-reverse-lottery/ and http://flirtingwiththeuninterested.com/themoneybox/

John Hancock’s Long Term Care Insurance Site www.johnhancockinsurance.com/long-term-care – Great new easy to navigate, informative, newly revamped long-term care insurance website.

Life Happens www.lifehappens.org – The newly updated site has great facts about long-term care insurance (LTCi), plus a great LTCi testimonial video.

Life Settlements http://ashargroup.com/what/who-qualifies/ Do you have an old life insurance policy you’re paying for but no longer need? Do you need additional money now? Find out if you are a good candidate for life insurance cash settlement, then please call me.

Living to 100 LIfe Expectancy Calculator http://www.livingto100.com/calculator/start/2 – For insight into how likely you are to need long-term care, this calculator is very useful. The longer you live, the more probable it is that you’ll need long-term care.

Long Term Care Needs, Risks and Costs https://www.genworth.com/products/care-funding/long-term-care-insurance.html – Here’s a newly launched site created by Genworth Financial, to give consumers accurate info about long-term care risks, needs and costs.

Long-Term Care Partners Group – LTCP http://ltcpg.com/– This is the consortium of elite peers I work closely with.

LTCi Calculators http://www.ltcpg.org/Default.asp?TID=62 – Here are some very easy-to-use, easy-to-understand tools that show you why, arithmetically,  LTCi ownership makes a great deal of sense.

www.ltcpg.com/ltc-calculators – More calculators that help you determine the cost of waiting to purchase long-term care insurance (LTCi), the cost of self-insuring, and more.

LTCi Testimonial www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/long-term-care-insurance/?id=157511 – A real-life, glowing testimonial for long-term care insurance (LTCi). Rates for high-quality LTCi are not necessarily as high as mentioned in this story.

Medicare www.medicare.gov/default.asp

Motley Fool www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/07/13/long-term-care-insurance-what-it-really-covers.aspx – Here’s a brief slide show by The Motley Fool, which staunchly advocates and educates for long-term care insurance (LTCi). The slide show explains what LTCi covers.

My Life My Family www.mylifemyfamily.com – Besides my own site, this new site is my favorite. It is loaded with excellent information about long-term care insurance, and has very moving videos.

National Association of Geriatric Care Managers  I am a huge advocate of geriatric care managers (GCM’s). They’ve made a big difference for quite a few of my clients. GCM’s are staunch advocates and provide a neutral, third party presence. They can get all family members “on the same page”, prescribe and support the right plan of action, and much, much more. This site describes what geriatric care managers are and helps you locate the right one. 

Own Your Future Texas www.ownyourfuturetexas.org – This is a terrific new site for long-term care information. It’s the result of a collaborative effort between private long-term care insurance providers, their authorized agents, and state government agencies, including the Texas Department of Insurance, the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, and the Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services.

Real Life Stories www.lifehappens.org/videos/ – View some very powerful, awe-inspiring, goose-pimple-inducing videos showing and describing  people who benefited from owning long-term care insurance.

Learn about the SCAN Foundation and watch an excellent short video describing the urgent need for long-term care planning.

Senior Advisor www.senioradvisor.com – This site is a little like tripadvisor.com, except that it is for rating, finding and reviewing assisted living and nursing facilities instead of your next vacation destination

Check to Sheryl Smith, RN’s site and her podcasts for interesting conversations about different aspects of caregiving. Find her August, 2018 podcast featuring Honey Leveen, here.

Surviving Alzheimers by Dayna Steele“Surviving Alzheimer’s With Friends, Facebook and a Really Big Glass of Wine” – My good friend, client, speaker and author Dayna Steele has written this book.  It is a tasteful, painfully graphic, honest chronicle of Dayna’s journey with her mother’s Alzheimer’s Disease. It is often darkly humorous. Readers will be touched.  I am proud to say the book contains a chapter I wrote describing the need for long-term care planning.

TX Department of Insurance www.tdi.state.tx.us

US Department of Health and Human Services National Clearinghouse for Long Term Care Insurance Info www.longtermcare.gov – Here, you will find lots of useful info about long-term care insurance (LTCi), as well as the opportunity to listen to audio tracks from the Own Your Future LTC Planning Kit online.

Where You Live Matters www.whereyoulivematters.org – This site educates about when, where, and why it is healthier to transition from home to a new lifestyle.

Women – 5 Things You Should Know When Planning for LTC – www.forbes.com/sites/learnvest/2014/12/17/planning-your-long-term-care-strategy-5-things-every-woman-should-know/ – Here’s a short, straightforward, easy to read, factual article (published in both Forbes and LearnVest) that describes the need for long-term care planning beautifully.

Newsletters

  • November 2019 – Happy Autumn! Happy Thanksgiving!
  • September 2019 – Happy September, friends!
  • July 2019 – Long-Term Care Insurance (LTCi) is Transformative!
  • May 2019 – The Long-Term Care Insurance (LTCi) Industry Is Alive, Well, and Kicking!
  • January 2019 – A Trip in the LTCi “Way Back” Machine
  • November  2018 – Happy Thanksgiving!
  • October 2018 – Why We Avoid the Hard Stuff: The Ostrich Paradox
  • August 2018 – Who Will Take Care of You? It’s Unlikely to be Your Kids!
  • May 2018 – Retirees Don’t Want to Spend Their Retirement Savings
  • April 2018 – The LTCi Industry Is Alive and Kicking! 
  • February 2018 – Be an Ant not a Grasshopper 
  • January 2018 – Solving a Mystery! Caregiving for Elders, Not Children, Denies Women Paychecks.
  • December 2017 – Happy Alzheimer’s Awareness Month!
  • October 2017 – Affluent People Should Self-insure for LTC, Right?
  • September 2017 – Don’t Wait to File Your LTCi Claim!
  • August 2017 – Adopting A Dog is Not a Long Term Care Plan!
  • June 2017 – Melinda’s long-term care story
  • May 2017 – Dave Ramsey is just so wrong! 
  • April 2017 – 2017 Alzheimer’s Facts Are Here! 
  • December 2016 – Warm wishes and cheer from Honey and Jim 
  • October 2016 – The Magic of LTCi
  • August 2016 – The 6,000 lb Elephant in the Room
  • July 2016 – LTCi Rates Are Stable
  • May 2016 – Denial is Not Just A River in Egypt
  • March 2016 – The Wisest Decision You’ve Ever Made
  • January 2016 – Happy New Year!
  • November 2015 – Happy Long-Term Care Awareness Month
  • October 2015 – LTC is a Women’s Issue
  • August 2015 – Why Self-Insuring for LTC Might Be Unwise
  • May 2015 – LTCi Faces a Bright Future
  • December 2014 – LTC in 2014 – A Review
  • August 2014 – LTC Current Events and Review
  • December 2013 – LTC in 2013 – A Review
  • May 2012 – LTCi: Understanding LTCi Rate Hikes
  • March 2012 – LTCi: One of the smartest business decisions you’ll ever make!
  • December 2011 – Happy Holiday Season!

MEDIA

Media

Long Term Care Informational Interviews and Videos

Thanks to Genworth for these compelling examples of how LTCi transforms and “rocks the world” when it’s needed: Teresa’s Story. Bob’s Story. Sandy’s Story. Jack’s Story. The Magic of LTCi.

Here’s the poignant, candid, heart-wrenching 60 Minutes 10-year study of a couple afflicted with Alzheimer’s. They did not plan in advance for long-term care!

This is a short, extremely powerful video about what Alzheimer’s looks like. Prepare yourself with long-term care insurance!

In this video, my good friend Gail describes why she regrets not buying long-term care insurance (LTCi) when she was eligible for it and could have obtained reasonable rates.

Learn what short-term care insurance (STCi) is and why it can be easier to qualify for and less expensive than traditional long-term care insurance (LTCi).

Watch this video to learn how you can easily use unneeded life insurance policies to fund long-term care.

Choices Senior Years

This is a 1:22 minute, fun, informative video on the urgent need for long-term care planning.

Have you decided not to buy long-term care insurance (LTCi) because you fear rate hikes? This 105 second video explains why rate hikes on today’s LTCi policies should be rare. Thanks to a trusted and experienced colleague for producing this important video and permitting me to share it with you.

Click here for Alzheimer’s Disease  (AD) just published 2018 facts. Other dread diseases like heart attacks, cancer, strokes declined between 2000 and 2013, while incidence of AD increased by 71%.

Leah R talks about the value of owning LTC insurance.

This is a two minute video featuring famous stars explaining why they’re urging Americans to plan now for long-term care.

The very credible Suze Orman is explicit about why long-term care insurance ownership is so important, and so empowering.

Here’s a brief slide show by The Motley Fool, which staunchly advocates and educates for long-term care insurance (LTCi). The slide show explains what LTCi covers.

Here’s a wonderful video testimonial describing how long-term care insurance transformed–for the better–the outcome for this family.

Here’s a brief TV story featuring one of my heroes, Genworth CEO Tom McInerney, who provides evidence of how incredibly unprepared Americans are for the strong, expensive possibility they’ll need long-term care.

Here’s a poignant video about recognizing and living with two generations of Alzheimer’s sufferers. 

My colleague, Sally Leimbach, gives a compelling example of why owning long-term care insurance is a very wise decision for the affluent.

Broker World Magazine (www.brokerworldmag.com) editor Sharon Chace explains why she believes it is very important to devote a lot of space in her magazine to long-term care insurance coverage.

Listen to Honey Leveen explain why she supports the 3 in 4 Need More Campaign.

Listen to Honey Leveen explain why she supports Steve Moses and the Center for Long-term Care Reform. Honey is sponsoring events, for the trade and the public, April 3 and 4, 2008, at The Forum at Memorial Woods.

Honey on CBS Early Show

 

PUBLISHED ARTICLES

Published Articles

2016

Surviving Alzheimers by Dayna SteeleMy good friend, client, speaker and author Dayna Steele has written a new book entitled “Surviving Alzheimer’s With Friends, Facebook and a Really Big Glass of Wine”.

The book is a tasteful, painfully graphic, honest chronicle of Dayna’s journey with her mother’s Alzheimer’s Disease. It is often darkly humorous. Readers will be touched.

I am proud to say the book contains a chapter I wrote describing the need for long-term care planning.

2013

Honey is quoted in this article, which provides insight and healthy, accurate perspective on long-term care rate hikes.

Here’s the April, 2013 article Honey wrote for Health Insurance Underwriter Magazine, titled “LTCI State of the Union“. It gives the reasons she is very optimistic about the future of long-term care insurance.

2012

Honey is quoted in the April 13, 2012 edition of the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram by award winning investigative reporter Dave Lieber.

Honey is quoted as an expert by noted journalist Terry Savage in a March, 2012 Chicago Sun-Times article.

If you are only going to click through to one link from this site, choose this brief, fun-to-read article describing how I work and what I’m like.

Read the monthly articles Honey has written for LifeHealthPro

2008

The Case for Cash LTCi Policies by Honey Leveen
Broker World, October 2008

2004

Where Will Care Take Place in Future Years? by Honey Leveen
Broker World, October 2004

Women in Insurance by Honey Leveen
Women’s Enterprise Magazine, July 2004

LTCi: Choosing an appropriate LTCi benefit period is a complicated, yet crucial decision by Honey Leveen

LTCI: Not Just for Seniors by Honey Leveen
Health Insurance, January 2004

2003

Light Your LTCi Fire by Honey Leveen
Multiple Risk Management, October 2003

Graying of US work force necessitates long-Term Ccre Insurance by Honey Leveen
Houston Business Journal, February 21, 2003 print edition

LTCi – What you need to know By Lynn Vincent

Long Term Care Insurance – How to increase your production by Honey Leveen
Brokerworld, July, 2003 edition

Become an LTCi Crusader by Honey Leveen

False LTCi Coverage Harms the Public

April 1, 2011 by Honey Leave a Comment

Main Stream Media (MSM) almost always casts Long-Term Care Insurance (LTCi) in a negative light. I seldom read an MSM article about LTCi that dispels myths.

The recent Prudential survey I blogged about on March 28, 2011 found that most people lack much factual information about LTCi. My experience with clients strongly supports the survey findings.

Knowledge is power. Lack of knowledge leads to fear and LTCi bashing. What a disservice this is to the public.

Lately, for example, the media seem to enjoy harping on the withdrawal of Met Life and others from the LTCi marketplace. They fail to mention that companies like LifeSecure and Humana are entering the LTCi marketplace. We’re obviously in a harsh economy, and many companies across all industries are withdrawing from markets or closing down. But today’s economy has not caused a single LTCi carrier to go belly up and default on its obligation to policyholders. MSM doesn’t mention this. Rarely have I seen MSM articles describe how beautifully LTCi pays even though such stories are abundant. 

Another common thing MSM does to cast LTCi in a bad light is to refer to LTCi as expensive.  Simple math that anyone can do on a calculator shows that if or when long-term care is needed, policyholders typically re-coup every dollar paid in premium within a few months. LTCi premiums are far more stable than those of other insurance policies. Contemporary LTCi may have rate hikes but they are uncommon and limited by the regulatory authorities. So which is preferable? Paying affordable LTCi premiums regularly and being able to access the long-term care of your choice, or hemorrhaging savings to pay for care?

Why does MSM like to diss the LTCi industry so much? I believe it’s mostly due to lack of knowledge, which in turn leads to fear.

I encourage you to visit www.honeyleveen.com and go to the References page. You will find links to several reputable sites that provide accurate statistics and information about LTCi.

Filed Under: Helpful Information About LTC, Information About LTC Tagged With: Humana, LifeSecure, Long Term Care insurance, LTC Insurance, Met Life, Prudential Insurance Company

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